Noah's Ark found.......

[petersansone]

I wanted to mention in passing that the Ark was found right where the bible indicated it was........the mountains of Uratu in Northern Turkey. Contact the Turkish government for confirmation. The pictures look exactly like I would have thought the Ark would look like. So I guess we can stop arguing about the flood......

[Veritas]

Holy shit....where do you get this info....

It is not the flipping ark....

[Goth_Slut]

Originally Posted by petersansone

I wanted to mention in passing that the Ark was found right where the bible indicated it was........the mountains of Uratu in Northern Turkey. Contact the Turkish government for confirmation. The pictures look exactly like I would have thought the Ark would look like. So I guess we can stop arguing about the flood......

Got a link?
A book refference?
A telegram?
A pigeon with a message taped to it's leg?


Also, if you can predict exactly what the Ark looks like, I don't suppose you can tell me what tonight's winning lotto numbers are eh?

Thanks in advance




Love,
Goth_Slut

[petersansone]

All inquiries to the uncovering of the Ark should be directed to the Turkish Government. Is that a good enough link?

[martini7B7]

you must surely be joking? i can see two huge elephants in your kitchen.

first, there are simply too many people that have visited and still visit that area for this to be anything other than (more) wishful thinking by Xian archaeologists who have clearly "begun with the end in mind". we are talking about a boat of monstrous size resting on a mountain top for some 4,000 or more years!? perfectly preserved as though it is in a frickin time capsule?! did Noah use magic wood?!

second, and far more important, is this: what, PeterSansone, is "faith"? say it out loud. is it not the Xian who constantly parrots the mantra, "without faith to bridge the gap ..."? now, remind us all of what the story of Yahweh destroying the entire Earth and all men, women, and children on it teaches us. then, after that is fresh in your mind, ponder this...

if we find Noah's ark, then does it then lend massive credibility to the entire Jewish faith? i think to some degree, yes.

but, and it is a bit but...

why, then, do we need faith anymore?

what good does it do now that we have the ark?

and even worse for the Xian

it has nothing to do with Yeshua ben Yusef. it confirms nothing of some first-century messianic concept. it only proves that the world was once flooded by the jealous and angry god Yahweh!

i will await the evidence -- and it had better be damn good -- from "the Turkish government" before drawing any conclusions. that is not to say that it was not found, but i am certainly skeptical (can you believe it?) that this time they actually found it.

[petersansone]

martini-

I actually agree with your post. Noah's Ark means nothing in terms of faith in Yeshua. However it is a wonderful archeological find and does support the Genesis account..........

[martini7B7]

Originally Posted by petersansone

martini-

I actually agree with your post. Noah's Ark means nothing in terms of faith in Yeshua. However it is a wonderful archeological find and does support the Genesis account..........

it is not so bad to agree with an atheist every once in a while.

i certainly would love to be the ones who analyze it. i mean, with all of our technological advances, just imagine the things that we could find regarding even a few hair fibers inside the boat. we could compare and contrast to the Genesis account of the ark would be a treasure trove. if the wood lasted this long, who knows what other goodies may lay inside.

but as i said, i will withold judgement until more information is present...

[Goth_Slut]

Yarr, matey!!

Break open the hold, thar be booty aboard this thar ship!!


Love,
Goth_Slut

[CharlotteSchnook]

petersansone: I wanted to mention in passing that the Ark was found right where the bible indicated it was........the mountains of Uratu in Northern Turkey.

- Noah's ark was not declared "found", it is speculated to be located on Mountain Ararat of Turkey.

-The Bible states that Noah landed in the region of the ancient kingdom Urartu. It did not claim specifically Ararat, it would not claim that, because Ararat is no kingdom, its unhabitable. Comparative religions scholars and linguistic experts are speculating that Mount Ararat is probably a corrupted term for the ancient word of Urartu.

-Mountain Ararat is not in "northern" Turkey, it is in "eastern" Turkey, close to the borders of Armenia and Iran, and only 150 miles (240 kilometers) from Iraq.

Contact the Turkish government for confirmation.

-Lots of people have tried, and the Turkish government will not, nor can give confirmation. You see, Mountain Ararat is part of a military training zone, and getting permission to explore it from the Turkish government is extremely difficult. But the expeditions that have been committed, turned up absolutely NO empirical evidence.

-All of this speculation started with arial images that resembled a boat on the mountain of Ararat. There have been numerus attempts since to take satellite images but all have been foiled by clouds, unavailability of imaging equipment, and lack of image resolution. To this day we still have no distinctive picture of the supposed ark.

- Ararat is a volcanic mountain, covered by an icecap from 14,000 feet (4,300 meters) to 17,000 feet (5,200 meters). The icecap is about 17 square miles (44 square kilometers) in size and is as deep as 300 feet (90 meters). It is extremely hard to navigate, despite this Ahmet Arslan, who has reached closest to the site can offer no evidence. He is a professor in Turkey who has climbed the mountain 50 times in 40 years, and lead numerous scientific expeditions, taking photographs from 220 yards (200 meters) away, yet has no definitive picture to offer.

-Despite these expeditions no fossilized wood or traces of wood, reed, or elemental carbon were found associated with the structure.

The pictures look exactly like I would have thought the Ark would look like. So I guess we can stop arguing about the flood......

-Contraire, the site is incompatible with the biblical account. Genesis 8:4-6 says the flood waters receded for two and a half months after the ark landed before other mountaintops became visible. The site is almost 10,000 feet lower than the summit of nearby Agri Dagh. Agri Dagh would have been visible above water even before the ark landed.

-The Bible describes a rectangular ark. Yet the ark being speculated is (oval) boat-shaped and about 50 percent wider than the dimensions given in the Bible.

However it is a wonderful archeological find and does support the Genesis account..........

-Arslan isn't the only one to have made expeditions, numerous ones have been held since the 60's and none have turned up evidence. Efforts are still ongoing, but even not even the Associates for Biblical Research is not engaged in any of them. Their official comment?: "We think that with the hundreds of explorers who have visited the region, if the ark was jutting out of the ice, it would be obvious."

-That of course isn't the only reason, it has to do with the creation story itself. You see, Bible scholars know that the Noah story is not a literal event. It is in fact a recycled ancient mythos that has been present in humanity far before Judaism even existed. Noah is the Hebrew word for fish, it comes from the Egyptian word "nu" or "nun". Which was the word for Ma-nu, the ancient Egyptian Godess of the primordial deep. Ma is the womb of chaos, the dangerous waters of life, where Nu was the embryoic seed that voyages the deep looking to populate the species and continue life. Ancient India, Sumeria and Babylonia also had this very same Noah or Nu myth who sailed on a moon -shaped (crescent) vessel called the "argha" or ark. Nu carried with him pairs of all creatures to populate the new creation once Ma receeded her waters from cleansing the earth of its impurities. Comparative scholars have evidence of this myth existing a minimum of 4,000 years prior to the existence of Judaism. So as we see, even if an ark was discovered (which there wasn't) it would not be proof of the validity of Genesis, but validation of earlier mythos belonging to more ancient cultures.

[A_REAL_EGYPTIAN]

Very good post and everything is correct except the end...Noah doesn't mean fish in hebrew and this ma-nu crap is not about noah lol I don't know where you got that from. Noah comes from "NOE" in Egyptian discourse which does mrean "replenish" or "catastrophic climate change". Other than that your post was well done. There is no Noah's ark@peter because you gay ass christians/messianic jews/zionist jews/rabbonic helenized jews are interpreting the whole damn story wrong to begin with. So finding old boats mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!! So if I go to Jerusalem and find an old garb does that mean Jesus exists now?!?!?! and as a matter of fact didn't some already try something rediculous like that?

Give it a rest...learn how to read your bible christians then come back to us smh